Comments on: Why Madeleine Bunting is wrong and why Britain is a great place to be an immigrant http://pdberger.com/why-madeleine-bunting-is-wrong-and-why-britain-is-a-great-place-to-be-an-immigrant/ A British freelance writer living in New York Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:48:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: pdberger http://pdberger.com/why-madeleine-bunting-is-wrong-and-why-britain-is-a-great-place-to-be-an-immigrant/comment-page-1/#comment-7743 pdberger Wed, 23 Nov 2005 04:24:52 +0000 http://pdberger.com/?p=652#comment-7743 Well, erm possibly...but the issue here is not just what Muslims do---it's what Britain does and what the Guardian prints. The Guardian's story, which non-Muslim's are supposed to believe is representative of Muslim views, is not representative at all. Is it any wonder then that Guardian readers' views are just as skewed as those of Fox viewers. I would have thought that Guardian readers more than most would want to understand the views and needs of the Muslim community in Britain. How are they supposed to do this if they don't know that Hizb ut-Tahrir's opinions are largely ignored? And how are they supposed to do this if they think that by going down the pub they are excluding Muslims from British society? Well, erm possibly…but the issue here is not just what Muslims do—it’s what Britain does and what the Guardian prints.

The Guardian’s story, which non-Muslim’s are supposed to believe is representative of Muslim views, is not representative at all. Is it any wonder then that Guardian readers’ views are just as skewed as those of Fox viewers.

I would have thought that Guardian readers more than most would want to understand the views and needs of the Muslim community in Britain.

How are they supposed to do this if they don’t know that Hizb ut-Tahrir’s opinions are largely ignored? And how are they supposed to do this if they think that by going down the pub they are excluding Muslims from British society?

]]> By: alison http://pdberger.com/why-madeleine-bunting-is-wrong-and-why-britain-is-a-great-place-to-be-an-immigrant/comment-page-1/#comment-7741 alison Wed, 23 Nov 2005 01:32:22 +0000 http://pdberger.com/?p=652#comment-7741 How very humiliating to have to deal with the drinking habits of the natives! Yup, poppycock is the word. And how can one take any of these greivances seriously when Jews aren't even alowed to step foot in most Arab nations. How very humiliating to have to deal with the drinking habits of the natives! Yup, poppycock is the word. And how can one take any of these greivances seriously when Jews aren’t even alowed to step foot in most Arab nations.

]]> By: Jinx http://pdberger.com/why-madeleine-bunting-is-wrong-and-why-britain-is-a-great-place-to-be-an-immigrant/comment-page-1/#comment-7738 Jinx Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:17:00 +0000 http://pdberger.com/?p=652#comment-7738 Also note how various national Muslim groups never call themselves British Muslims or French Muslims or American Muslims. Rather, it's always Comittee or Council (or whatever) of Muslims *of* Britain or *in* France etc. Forget the extremists for a moment, and ask why the mainstream groups resist assimilation. It may just be that the structure of Islam itself-in that Muslims are often encouraged not to recognize the legitimacy of the secular state-is somewhat to blame. Also note how various national Muslim groups never call themselves British Muslims or French Muslims or American Muslims. Rather, it’s always Comittee or Council (or whatever) of Muslims *of* Britain or *in* France etc. Forget the extremists for a moment, and ask why the mainstream groups resist assimilation. It may just be that the structure of Islam itself-in that Muslims are often encouraged not to recognize the legitimacy of the secular state-is somewhat to blame.

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