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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 12:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I fully agree that rational appraisals are in short supply on both the Israeli and Palestinian sides. Understandable when you think about the trauma that both communities have undergone in the relatively recent past.

But when the NYT reports a murder, or a response to a murder, it doesn&#039;t show a bloody picture of a dissected corpse. The equivalent is to accompany the headline &quot;Police Have No Leads In Last Week&#039;s Murder&quot; with a similarly gory picture. There&#039;s a lot of political capital in doing what the NYT did, in choosing that particular picture. In wars it is always advantageous to portray one&#039;s own atrocities in as cold a way as possible, while playing up as much as possible those committed by the opposing side. 

Both pictures seem to be conscious editorial decisions to portray the conflict in a particular light. And for what it&#039;s worth, I don&#039;t think the BBC is coming totally out of left field with its picture, it is not a story specifically about the bombing but about the Israeli response to the bombing, and the picture is essentially about Israeli response to terror. It&#039;s a bit of a stretch, perhaps, but I don&#039;t think any more of a stretch than NYT&#039;s decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I fully agree that rational appraisals are in short supply on both the Israeli and Palestinian sides. Understandable when you think about the trauma that both communities have undergone in the relatively recent past.</p>
<p>But when the NYT reports a murder, or a response to a murder, it doesn&#8217;t show a bloody picture of a dissected corpse. The equivalent is to accompany the headline &#8220;Police Have No Leads In Last Week&#8217;s Murder&#8221; with a similarly gory picture. There&#8217;s a lot of political capital in doing what the NYT did, in choosing that particular picture. In wars it is always advantageous to portray one&#8217;s own atrocities in as cold a way as possible, while playing up as much as possible those committed by the opposing side. </p>
<p>Both pictures seem to be conscious editorial decisions to portray the conflict in a particular light. And for what it&#8217;s worth, I don&#8217;t think the BBC is coming totally out of left field with its picture, it is not a story specifically about the bombing but about the Israeli response to the bombing, and the picture is essentially about Israeli response to terror. It&#8217;s a bit of a stretch, perhaps, but I don&#8217;t think any more of a stretch than NYT&#8217;s decision.</p>
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		<title>By: pdberger</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/one-headline-two-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-10657</link>
		<dc:creator>pdberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 12:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, my point is that the story is about Israel&#039;s response to the Tel Aviv bombing. 

The BBC picture has nothing to do with the bombing whereas the New York Times picture does. 

Alas, there is no such thing as &quot;a rational appraisal of the situation&quot; when it comes to Israel/Palestine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, my point is that the story is about Israel&#8217;s response to the Tel Aviv bombing. </p>
<p>The BBC picture has nothing to do with the bombing whereas the New York Times picture does. </p>
<p>Alas, there is no such thing as &#8220;a rational appraisal of the situation&#8221; when it comes to Israel/Palestine.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/one-headline-two-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-10656</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 12:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two pictures used by the different news sources indicate two different, each quite partisan, mindsets that one can bring to the Israel-Palestine crisis, and, to that extent, both are biased. But both come from reality. It is not any more biased for the BBC to show the picture they did - it is well documented that Israeli soldiers have shot and killed small boys with nothing but stones, or even small boys who have mistakenly entered the wrong zone. The BBC report obviously comes from a mindset of being at least slightly suspicious of Israel, but then the BBC has a tradition of being suspicious of all sides, quite a good tactic, I think. I haven&#039;t seen a BBC report taking anything that Hamas says at face value, but when the same rules apply to Israel claims of bias abound. 

Even in the Falkland&#039;s war, claims from both sides about the number of casualties, etc., were reported as exactly that. 

To imply that one is biased and the other is accurate is really strange. Obviously, the New York Times were emotionalising the debate in a very different way. It&#039;s a very traumatic picture to see, and it makes you feel angry at the people who did that horrible thing, in turn making you angry at Palestinians in general and less able to really take part in a rational appraisal of the situation. I have yet to see footage of atrocities committed by the Israeli side, which are surprisingly more numerous than those committed by suicide bombers, given the same kind of attention. Even the BBC picture is one that, while showing a particular (true) aspect of the conflict, does not seem to be about scrambling the emotions of the reader to an extent where they react with anger where perhaps a bit of thought is required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two pictures used by the different news sources indicate two different, each quite partisan, mindsets that one can bring to the Israel-Palestine crisis, and, to that extent, both are biased. But both come from reality. It is not any more biased for the BBC to show the picture they did &#8211; it is well documented that Israeli soldiers have shot and killed small boys with nothing but stones, or even small boys who have mistakenly entered the wrong zone. The BBC report obviously comes from a mindset of being at least slightly suspicious of Israel, but then the BBC has a tradition of being suspicious of all sides, quite a good tactic, I think. I haven&#8217;t seen a BBC report taking anything that Hamas says at face value, but when the same rules apply to Israel claims of bias abound. </p>
<p>Even in the Falkland&#8217;s war, claims from both sides about the number of casualties, etc., were reported as exactly that. </p>
<p>To imply that one is biased and the other is accurate is really strange. Obviously, the New York Times were emotionalising the debate in a very different way. It&#8217;s a very traumatic picture to see, and it makes you feel angry at the people who did that horrible thing, in turn making you angry at Palestinians in general and less able to really take part in a rational appraisal of the situation. I have yet to see footage of atrocities committed by the Israeli side, which are surprisingly more numerous than those committed by suicide bombers, given the same kind of attention. Even the BBC picture is one that, while showing a particular (true) aspect of the conflict, does not seem to be about scrambling the emotions of the reader to an extent where they react with anger where perhaps a bit of thought is required.</p>
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		<title>By: pdberger</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/one-headline-two-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-10345</link>
		<dc:creator>pdberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think so. I think it was laziness. 

It just looks like a stock pic that could have been taken any time in the past ten years or more. They could have used any pic they wanted from the bombing. 

I think the use of this photo is a good insight into the mindset of staff at the BBC. This photograph sums up everything that Israel is to them--men shooting at stone-throwing boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think so. I think it was laziness. </p>
<p>It just looks like a stock pic that could have been taken any time in the past ten years or more. They could have used any pic they wanted from the bombing. </p>
<p>I think the use of this photo is a good insight into the mindset of staff at the BBC. This photograph sums up everything that Israel is to them&#8211;men shooting at stone-throwing boys.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/one-headline-two-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-10342</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as i can now attest, being a newspaper editor, the BBC used the photo .... because it is a great photo! wrong for the story sure, but great nonetheless. and this form a former paid israeli propagandist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as i can now attest, being a newspaper editor, the BBC used the photo &#8230;. because it is a great photo! wrong for the story sure, but great nonetheless. and this form a former paid israeli propagandist.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/one-headline-two-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-10123</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it&#039;s too early. I read your piece wrong and attributed the photos to the wrong papers. I always come across as retarded on your comments section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it&#8217;s too early. I read your piece wrong and attributed the photos to the wrong papers. I always come across as retarded on your comments section.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/one-headline-two-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-10121</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the US is &#039;on the side&#039; of Israel which makes the choice of photos even more interesting. My bro and his wife are off there to do surgery for Palestinian bomb victims in a few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the US is &#8216;on the side&#8217; of Israel which makes the choice of photos even more interesting. My bro and his wife are off there to do surgery for Palestinian bomb victims in a few months.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/one-headline-two-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-10119</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, you&#039;re from the land of BBC, you know why they did it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, you&#8217;re from the land of BBC, you know why they did it.</p>
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