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		<title>By: Wellsy</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/my-holocaust-is-bigger-than-your-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-6570</link>
		<dc:creator>Wellsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Offensive to Muslims? Please.

Rod Liddle in The Spectator - &quot;Sir Iqbal Sacranie, the eminent chairman of the Muslim Council of Britain, recently refused to attend the Holocaust memorial day. When asked why this was so, he muttered something about how lots of people had been killed all over the place, not least the poor Palestinians and why shouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t we remember them, etc., etc. In the liberal press, extravagant excuses were made for Sacranie and his ludicrous chef de cabinet, Inayat Bunglawala. But I suspect that the simple answer, the one we didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t want to hear, is the most accurate: Sacranie and Mr Bunglawala donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t like Jews. They are both unequivocal anti-Semites. You do not refuse to grieve for one bunch of people because another, much smaller, bunch of people have been murdered as well.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Offensive to Muslims? Please.</p>
<p>Rod Liddle in The Spectator &#8211; &#8220;Sir Iqbal Sacranie, the eminent chairman of the Muslim Council of Britain, recently refused to attend the Holocaust memorial day. When asked why this was so, he muttered something about how lots of people had been killed all over the place, not least the poor Palestinians and why shouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t we remember them, etc., etc. In the liberal press, extravagant excuses were made for Sacranie and his ludicrous chef de cabinet, Inayat Bunglawala. But I suspect that the simple answer, the one we didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t want to hear, is the most accurate: Sacranie and Mr Bunglawala donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t like Jews. They are both unequivocal anti-Semites. You do not refuse to grieve for one bunch of people because another, much smaller, bunch of people have been murdered as well.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JohnM</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/my-holocaust-is-bigger-than-your-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-6485</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a British Holocaust day, it&#039;s a European holocaust day. And it includes not just Jews but also Gypsies, handicapped, gays, poles and Slavs, amongst others.

Arguing that it is not inclusive is silly. It would be just as daft to complain that July 4 excludes Brits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a British Holocaust day, it&#8217;s a European holocaust day. And it includes not just Jews but also Gypsies, handicapped, gays, poles and Slavs, amongst others.</p>
<p>Arguing that it is not inclusive is silly. It would be just as daft to complain that July 4 excludes Brits.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2005 01:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bummer. I like being a contrarian. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bummer. I like being a contrarian.</p>
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		<title>By: pdberger</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/my-holocaust-is-bigger-than-your-holocaust/comment-page-1/#comment-6060</link>
		<dc:creator>pdberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you&#039;re being a contrarian at all! You said it yourself:

&lt;blockquote&gt;That said, that doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t mean Britain needs to commemorate it with a national day.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re being a contrarian at all! You said it yourself:</p>
<blockquote><p>That said, that doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t mean Britain needs to commemorate it with a national day.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, allow me to be the contrarian here. In principle Paul, you&#039;re right -- there should be no distinctions amongst historical atrocities. They&#039;re all bad. Start commemorating one, and who knows where it&#039;ll end up? 

But due to the scale of the Holocaust, the fact that it was an industrialized killing perpetrated in the heart of the most advanced, &#039;civilized&#039; country on earth, and because it carries with it important lessons (beyond just &#039;love your neighbor&#039; and &#039;don&#039;t kill&#039; stuff) that remain valuable today, it is particularly worthy of commemoration as an educational excercise. 

That said, that doesn&#039;t mean Britain needs to commemorate it with a national day. But what bothers me about this whole thing is not that Britain might eliminate a holiday that&#039;s only a few years old, but the motivations that lie behind it. This is coming from Muslims, and not because they care so much about fairness and equality, but because denigrating the magnitude of the Jewish tragedy serves their political interests. It weakens one of the key arguments for the existence of Israel and helps to balance in the public imagination the catastrophe that befell the Palestinians thanks to Arab rejectionism and Jewish eagerness, and the concerted effort of the Nazis to eliminate every last Jew from the face of the planet. For this reason, Brits should be wary of caving to their demands. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, allow me to be the contrarian here. In principle Paul, you&#8217;re right &#8212; there should be no distinctions amongst historical atrocities. They&#8217;re all bad. Start commemorating one, and who knows where it&#8217;ll end up? </p>
<p>But due to the scale of the Holocaust, the fact that it was an industrialized killing perpetrated in the heart of the most advanced, &#8216;civilized&#8217; country on earth, and because it carries with it important lessons (beyond just &#8216;love your neighbor&#8217; and &#8216;don&#8217;t kill&#8217; stuff) that remain valuable today, it is particularly worthy of commemoration as an educational excercise. </p>
<p>That said, that doesn&#8217;t mean Britain needs to commemorate it with a national day. But what bothers me about this whole thing is not that Britain might eliminate a holiday that&#8217;s only a few years old, but the motivations that lie behind it. This is coming from Muslims, and not because they care so much about fairness and equality, but because denigrating the magnitude of the Jewish tragedy serves their political interests. It weakens one of the key arguments for the existence of Israel and helps to balance in the public imagination the catastrophe that befell the Palestinians thanks to Arab rejectionism and Jewish eagerness, and the concerted effort of the Nazis to eliminate every last Jew from the face of the planet. For this reason, Brits should be wary of caving to their demands.</p>
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		<title>By: alison</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I consider myself an honorary Jewess (my husband is Jewish), and I am not offended! It&#039;s absolutely appropriate that Germany, Poland and Italy should have this holiday, but the Brits? My husband, who is very proud of his Jewish heritage and whose grandparents were survivors, also agrees. 

Besides, as I&#039;ve traveled quite a bit and haven&#039;t always had a Jewish surname, I&#039;ve discovered that the world is rampant with anti-semitism and I&#039;m not sure that Holocaust education is helping this battle as much as the Jewish community would like.  Perhaps people need to know a bit more about Jewish culture, heritage and history apart from the Holocaust. Of course, there is no need to make a day of it.</description>
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<p>I consider myself an honorary Jewess (my husband is Jewish), and I am not offended! It&#8217;s absolutely appropriate that Germany, Poland and Italy should have this holiday, but the Brits? My husband, who is very proud of his Jewish heritage and whose grandparents were survivors, also agrees. </p>
<p>Besides, as I&#8217;ve traveled quite a bit and haven&#8217;t always had a Jewish surname, I&#8217;ve discovered that the world is rampant with anti-semitism and I&#8217;m not sure that Holocaust education is helping this battle as much as the Jewish community would like.  Perhaps people need to know a bit more about Jewish culture, heritage and history apart from the Holocaust. Of course, there is no need to make a day of it.</p>
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		<title>By: pdberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to the two of you. I&#039;m still holding my breath waiting to see who I may have offended with these thoughts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the two of you. I&#8217;m still holding my breath waiting to see who I may have offended with these thoughts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 07:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started out agreeing with Paul and ended up more so. To be honest I wasn&#039;t keen on the Holocaust Memorial Day from the outset. It&#039;s typical a Clintonite/Blairite facade of compassion, as though I couldn&#039;t care without some hollow ceremony attended by the mayor and &quot;community&quot; &quot;group&quot; &quot;leaders&quot; Also, what&#039;s it got to do with us. My grandparents, like yours no doubt, fought on the side that put a stop to the holocaust in the Royal Navy, Royal Artillery and WRVS.

That said, that the people opposed here are opposed for the reasons they claim speaks volumes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started out agreeing with Paul and ended up more so. To be honest I wasn&#8217;t keen on the Holocaust Memorial Day from the outset. It&#8217;s typical a Clintonite/Blairite facade of compassion, as though I couldn&#8217;t care without some hollow ceremony attended by the mayor and &#8220;community&#8221; &#8220;group&#8221; &#8220;leaders&#8221; Also, what&#8217;s it got to do with us. My grandparents, like yours no doubt, fought on the side that put a stop to the holocaust in the Royal Navy, Royal Artillery and WRVS.</p>
<p>That said, that the people opposed here are opposed for the reasons they claim speaks volumes.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I started out disagreeing with you, and ended up agreeing with you.  How&#039;s that for a successfully written piece?  For me, the real tragedy is that once people have died, and moved beyond all the labels, politics, and territorial nonsense that our human life entails, they still have to be labeled, politicized, and grouped together as victims of this or victims of that.  No easy answer here, except that human death by violent means is a tragedy in and of itself.  Unfortunately, human beings (myself included) aren&#039;t wired to see things like that.  Let&#039;s face it, a vast majority of those whose deaths would be memorialized under any such &quot;day&quot; would be those of strangers -- will it make us mourn their death more to know they were on our &quot;side&quot;?  And should it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I started out disagreeing with you, and ended up agreeing with you.  How&#8217;s that for a successfully written piece?  For me, the real tragedy is that once people have died, and moved beyond all the labels, politics, and territorial nonsense that our human life entails, they still have to be labeled, politicized, and grouped together as victims of this or victims of that.  No easy answer here, except that human death by violent means is a tragedy in and of itself.  Unfortunately, human beings (myself included) aren&#8217;t wired to see things like that.  Let&#8217;s face it, a vast majority of those whose deaths would be memorialized under any such &#8220;day&#8221; would be those of strangers &#8212; will it make us mourn their death more to know they were on our &#8220;side&#8221;?  And should it?</p>
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