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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/leeds/comment-page-1/#comment-7968</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and interesting that all this banter produces Google ads for Manchester and London hotels - but not Leeds. Shame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and interesting that all this banter produces Google ads for Manchester and London hotels &#8211; but not Leeds. Shame!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/leeds/comment-page-1/#comment-7965</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you introduced the greater Manchester idea...
Gratified that you&#039;ve gone to the trouble of investigating my famous Mancs though. I think we need to be told about the traumatic event that happened to you in Manchester, that&#039;s obviously triggered this irrational reaction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you introduced the greater Manchester idea&#8230;<br />
Gratified that you&#8217;ve gone to the trouble of investigating my famous Mancs though. I think we need to be told about the traumatic event that happened to you in Manchester, that&#8217;s obviously triggered this irrational reaction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wellsy</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/leeds/comment-page-1/#comment-7960</link>
		<dc:creator>Wellsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile OBE of notable &#039;Fix It&#039; fame should never be questioned or ridiculed! And whilst Manchester certainly has been positively developed since 1996 (largely down to Irish contractors with large quantities of explosives) the fact that Stuart Pearce has new changing rooms hardly constitutes city superiority.

And why is it fashionable for people to claim they&#039;re from somewhere when they&#039;re not? It&#039;s like claiming to know a famous person because you&#039;ve seen them in real life.

Leeds is Leeds with it&#039;s good areas and turdy ones. It doesn&#039;t claim other turdy areas like Keighley, Bradford, Wakefield etc. to form Greater Leeds. It&#039;s just Leeds. A fine city and everyone should holiday there.

As for the Cranberry Juice incident... it happened once, I was young, I&#039;ve moved on and put the matter firmly behind me.

PS...

Amir Khan - Born BOLTON 1986
Sir Ian McKellan - Born BURNLEY 1939
Walter Greenwood -Ã‚Â Born CITY OF SALFORDÃ‚Â 1903
Elizabeth Gaskell - Born LONDON 1810</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile OBE of notable &#8216;Fix It&#8217; fame should never be questioned or ridiculed! And whilst Manchester certainly has been positively developed since 1996 (largely down to Irish contractors with large quantities of explosives) the fact that Stuart Pearce has new changing rooms hardly constitutes city superiority.</p>
<p>And why is it fashionable for people to claim they&#8217;re from somewhere when they&#8217;re not? It&#8217;s like claiming to know a famous person because you&#8217;ve seen them in real life.</p>
<p>Leeds is Leeds with it&#8217;s good areas and turdy ones. It doesn&#8217;t claim other turdy areas like Keighley, Bradford, Wakefield etc. to form Greater Leeds. It&#8217;s just Leeds. A fine city and everyone should holiday there.</p>
<p>As for the Cranberry Juice incident&#8230; it happened once, I was young, I&#8217;ve moved on and put the matter firmly behind me.</p>
<p>PS&#8230;</p>
<p>Amir Khan &#8211; Born BOLTON 1986<br />
Sir Ian McKellan &#8211; Born BURNLEY 1939<br />
Walter Greenwood -Ã‚Â Born CITY OF SALFORDÃ‚Â 1903<br />
Elizabeth Gaskell &#8211; Born LONDON 1810</p>
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		<title>By: kingston girl</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/leeds/comment-page-1/#comment-7951</link>
		<dc:creator>kingston girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I studied in Leeds for a while and when I try and tell people here where it is, I have to use the Manchester link. But then people say &#039;oh, it&#039;s near London&#039;. apparently everywhere in Elgnad is near London...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I studied in Leeds for a while and when I try and tell people here where it is, I have to use the Manchester link. But then people say &#8216;oh, it&#8217;s near London&#8217;. apparently everywhere in Elgnad is near London&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/leeds/comment-page-1/#comment-7949</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re not afraid of soft southern jessies like him - especially when they are reduced to claiming Sir James Savile as a famous son...
I think anyone who champions a place containing Chapeltown and Hunslet should really think again before talking about turdy little towns. Stones and glass houses?  And yes, I know Manchester has its equivalent districts- so does everywhere else. As for famous Mancunians, aside from the dreaded Gallaghers:
-too many footballers to list
-too many cricketers to list
Anthony Burgess (subject of a forthcoming book by me)
Elizabeth Gaskell
Amir Khan
LS Lowry
Sir Ian McKellen
Thomas de Quincey
Walter Greenwood
Sir Norman Foster
and many more...
Of course Wellsy omitted the greatest living Loiner: Tony Harrison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not afraid of soft southern jessies like him &#8211; especially when they are reduced to claiming Sir James Savile as a famous son&#8230;<br />
I think anyone who champions a place containing Chapeltown and Hunslet should really think again before talking about turdy little towns. Stones and glass houses?  And yes, I know Manchester has its equivalent districts- so does everywhere else. As for famous Mancunians, aside from the dreaded Gallaghers:<br />
-too many footballers to list<br />
-too many cricketers to list<br />
Anthony Burgess (subject of a forthcoming book by me)<br />
Elizabeth Gaskell<br />
Amir Khan<br />
LS Lowry<br />
Sir Ian McKellen<br />
Thomas de Quincey<br />
Walter Greenwood<br />
Sir Norman Foster<br />
and many more&#8230;<br />
Of course Wellsy omitted the greatest living Loiner: Tony Harrison</p>
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		<title>By: pdberger</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/leeds/comment-page-1/#comment-7948</link>
		<dc:creator>pdberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Them&#039;s fighting words Rob :) Be careful or Hugo Wells (AKA Wellsy) the Cranberry juice swilling softie from London will be after you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Them&#8217;s fighting words Rob <img src='http://pdberger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Be careful or Hugo Wells (AKA Wellsy) the Cranberry juice swilling softie from London will be after you!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/leeds/comment-page-1/#comment-7946</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Mancunian who spent his student years in Leeds, I fel qualified to have a go at you...
Both Manc and Leeds have been transformed in recent years, Manchester&#039;s hastened by the IRA bomb. They feel quite similar to me now, except Manchester is bigger and better:
Royal Exchange, Urbis, Imperial War Museum, Lowry, City of Manchester Stadium, etc etc.
I love both cities, but if push comes to shove, Manchester has it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Mancunian who spent his student years in Leeds, I fel qualified to have a go at you&#8230;<br />
Both Manc and Leeds have been transformed in recent years, Manchester&#8217;s hastened by the IRA bomb. They feel quite similar to me now, except Manchester is bigger and better:<br />
Royal Exchange, Urbis, Imperial War Museum, Lowry, City of Manchester Stadium, etc etc.<br />
I love both cities, but if push comes to shove, Manchester has it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karol</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/leeds/comment-page-1/#comment-7943</link>
		<dc:creator>Karol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Sunderland fan and I hate telling people &#039;it&#039;s near Newcastle&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Sunderland fan and I hate telling people &#8216;it&#8217;s near Newcastle&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dezik</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/leeds/comment-page-1/#comment-7942</link>
		<dc:creator>Dezik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and the pinkest, most trunk-like legs ever seen on a human being (a female) were witnessed by me in a minicab office in Kirkstall. It was the height of winter and said female, not to be messed with on a dark night, or any night, was wearing a rather short mini-skirt. My female friend, studying locally, assured me this was par for the course in Leodian lasses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and the pinkest, most trunk-like legs ever seen on a human being (a female) were witnessed by me in a minicab office in Kirkstall. It was the height of winter and said female, not to be messed with on a dark night, or any night, was wearing a rather short mini-skirt. My female friend, studying locally, assured me this was par for the course in Leodian lasses.</p>
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		<title>By: Wellsy</title>
		<link>http://pdberger.com/leeds/comment-page-1/#comment-7941</link>
		<dc:creator>Wellsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so more people know Manchester around the world but that&#039;s largely due to a US-run company called Manchester United Football Club. And most people, famous or otherwise, are really from &#039;Greater Manchester&#039;, which generally consists of turdy little towns within 30 miles - or anyone who owns an Oasis album.

Aside from Leeds United, we have THE Rugby League team. And Leeds is the birthplace to gems such Alan Bennett, Vic Reeves, David Hockney, Ernie Wise, Malcolm McDowell. Even Sir Jimmy Saville for Gods sake!!

And you know the best thing to come out of Manchester? The M62 to Leeds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so more people know Manchester around the world but that&#8217;s largely due to a US-run company called Manchester United Football Club. And most people, famous or otherwise, are really from &#8216;Greater Manchester&#8217;, which generally consists of turdy little towns within 30 miles &#8211; or anyone who owns an Oasis album.</p>
<p>Aside from Leeds United, we have THE Rugby League team. And Leeds is the birthplace to gems such Alan Bennett, Vic Reeves, David Hockney, Ernie Wise, Malcolm McDowell. Even Sir Jimmy Saville for Gods sake!!</p>
<p>And you know the best thing to come out of Manchester? The M62 to Leeds!</p>
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