Comments on: Egypt Blogger Jailed, Four Years for ‘Insulting’ Islam and President Mubarak http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/ A British freelance writer living in New York Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:48:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ermiyas http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/comment-page-1/#comment-40147 Ermiyas Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:51:10 +0000 http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/#comment-40147 Afghanistan was a done deal, until president Bush decided to relocate them to Iraq and now he chnges his minds and sends moresoldiers. The Iraq war allowed the Taliban to re-group and strengthen it's force. And I am not saying USA does not have the right to defend itself from enemies like the Taliban and Al Qaeda, but the Iraq war was a mess first of all for th US force and secondly for the Republican base administrations. Afghanistan was a done deal, until president Bush decided to relocate them to Iraq and now he chnges his minds and sends moresoldiers. The Iraq war allowed the Taliban to re-group and strengthen it’s force.
And I am not saying USA does not have the right to defend itself from enemies like the Taliban and Al Qaeda, but the Iraq war was a mess first of all for th US force and secondly for the Republican base administrations.

]]> By: pdberger http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/comment-page-1/#comment-39945 pdberger Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:53:32 +0000 http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/#comment-39945 <blockquote>...had they taken this approach before there would be no death to over 3000 US soldiers and hundred thousand Iraqi add to that the billion dollar they spent towards it.</blockquote> Ermiyas, how can you be so sure? If the US had pursued further negotiations over Iraq, who's to say war would not have broken out anyway? And who's to say that without Iraq US troops would not be dying elsewhere, in say Afghanistan, where the death toll keeps rising? I'm not defending the Iraq war. As I have said before, I joined demonstrations opposing it in the months prior. But, according to your logic, the world would be better off if the US spent all its time negotiating and kept its troops at home. Is that what you want?

…had they taken this approach before there would be no death to over 3000 US soldiers and hundred thousand Iraqi add to that the billion dollar they spent towards it.

Ermiyas, how can you be so sure?

If the US had pursued further negotiations over Iraq, who’s to say war would not have broken out anyway?

And who’s to say that without Iraq US troops would not be dying elsewhere, in say Afghanistan, where the death toll keeps rising?

I’m not defending the Iraq war. As I have said before, I joined demonstrations opposing it in the months prior.

But, according to your logic, the world would be better off if the US spent all its time negotiating and kept its troops at home.

Is that what you want?

]]> By: Ermiyas http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/comment-page-1/#comment-39940 Ermiyas Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:41:13 +0000 http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/#comment-39940 Paul : I heard about it yesterday morning on BBC radio five live, had they taken this approach before there would be no death to over 3000 US soldiers and hundred thousand Iraqi add to that the billion dollar they spent towards it. Simon: everyone knows Kim is a dictator; the only way to sort him out is via either Russia or China. I would have loved to have seen if the Bush administration went ahead and attacked, what will the consequences be? Paul : I heard about it yesterday morning on BBC radio five live, had they taken this approach before there would be no death to over 3000 US soldiers and hundred thousand Iraqi add to that the billion dollar they spent towards it.

Simon: everyone knows Kim is a dictator; the only way to sort him out is via either Russia or China. I would have loved to have seen if the Bush administration went ahead and attacked, what will the consequences be?

]]> By: pdberger http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/comment-page-1/#comment-39912 pdberger Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:53:58 +0000 http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/#comment-39912 I thought you both might be interested in this. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/01/washington/01diplo.html?ref=todayspaper" rel="nofollow">In U.S. Overtures to Foes, New Respect for Pragmatism</a>. I thought you both might be interested in this.

In U.S. Overtures to Foes, New Respect for Pragmatism.

]]> By: Simon http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/comment-page-1/#comment-39747 Simon Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:02:26 +0000 http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/#comment-39747 Kim Jong-Il basically said, "give us truckloads of cash or we'll threaten the security of the entire region." And because they already have the military might to destroy Seoul, the US had no real choice but to cave. I would hardly use that as a great example in favor of negotiation. If the US caves in and pays every bloodthirsty tyrant who demands it, they'll lose all their credibility. What kind of negotiation do you think would resolve the problems in Palestine? I can't think of anything the US hasn't tried. I really would like to know? I agree negotiation is a good tool for buying time and hoping things will resolve themselves, but the militant Islamists are a breed of their own. All they seem to want is death and destruction. I don't see how you negotiate with that. I suppose we could keep negotiating until the get married, have a couple of kids and calm the hell down. You know, that might just work actually. Kim Jong-Il basically said, “give us truckloads of cash or we’ll threaten the security of the entire region.” And because they already have the military might to destroy Seoul, the US had no real choice but to cave. I would hardly use that as a great example in favor of negotiation. If the US caves in and pays every bloodthirsty tyrant who demands it, they’ll lose all their credibility.

What kind of negotiation do you think would resolve the problems in Palestine? I can’t think of anything the US hasn’t tried. I really would like to know? I agree negotiation is a good tool for buying time and hoping things will resolve themselves, but the militant Islamists are a breed of their own. All they seem to want is death and destruction. I don’t see how you negotiate with that.

I suppose we could keep negotiating until the get married, have a couple of kids and calm the hell down. You know, that might just work actually.

]]> By: Ermiyas http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/comment-page-1/#comment-39605 Ermiyas Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:56:04 +0000 http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/#comment-39605 Simon, I am not accusing Bush of the entire problem in this world and I am not going to accuse USA because it is nothing to do with what most of the Americans would want. Yes, I am a critical of President Bush, but that does not mean he is the only person I put my finger on. Most problems that are happening in the world is connected with the current American administration refusal for a peaceful solution: Lebanon Somalia Palestine Iraq Now soon to be Iran When all this problems can be solved with a common sense by that I mean working with UN(the world). Please check the link: - http://www.miamiherald.com/578/story/24382.html Don't get me wrong President Bush can do a lot for the world peace, first by starting to negotiate with Iran the same way as he did with North Korea. Enough ranting. Simon,
I am not accusing Bush of the entire problem in this world and I am not going to accuse USA because it is nothing to do with what most of the Americans would want.
Yes, I am a critical of President Bush, but that does not mean he is the only person I put my finger on.
Most problems that are happening in the world is connected with the current American administration refusal for a peaceful solution:
Lebanon
Somalia
Palestine
Iraq
Now soon to be Iran
When all this problems can be solved with a common sense by that I mean working with UN(the world).
Please check the link: –
http://www.miamiherald.com/578/story/24382.html
Don’t get me wrong President Bush can do a lot for the world peace, first by starting to negotiate with Iran the same way as he did with North Korea.
Enough ranting.

]]> By: Simon http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/comment-page-1/#comment-39391 Simon Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:44:24 +0000 http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/#comment-39391 Ermiyas, I've noticed that every time you comment on this blog you seem to be suggesting that Bush is behind some terrible conspiracy. Everything bad in this world is not Bush's fault. Sometimes you are right and sometimes you are wrong, but you always seem to miss the point. Bush, for all his myriad failings still represents hope and freedom when contrasted with the authoritarian Putin, the immoral Chinese or the tyrannical leaders of the Middle East. You need to think a bit more about what is upsetting you and why. Ermiyas, I’ve noticed that every time you comment on this blog you seem to be suggesting that Bush is behind some terrible conspiracy. Everything bad in this world is not Bush’s fault. Sometimes you are right and sometimes you are wrong, but you always seem to miss the point. Bush, for all his myriad failings still represents hope and freedom when contrasted with the authoritarian Putin, the immoral Chinese or the tyrannical leaders of the Middle East. You need to think a bit more about what is upsetting you and why.

]]> By: Ermiyas http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/comment-page-1/#comment-39379 Ermiyas Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:13:21 +0000 http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/#comment-39379 This is what I can’t understand, had this blogger been a Russian President Bush will be on their case, but when it happens to be in Egypt, Ethiopia or those countries USA calls friend it is ignored. What a world we live in. This is what I can’t understand, had this blogger been a Russian President Bush will be on their case, but when it happens to be in Egypt, Ethiopia or those countries USA calls friend it is ignored.
What a world we live in.

]]> By: ahmad sherif http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/comment-page-1/#comment-39308 ahmad sherif Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:38:06 +0000 http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/#comment-39308 Hello to you and to your visitors, true thanks for your concern and support regarding Egyptian Bloggers. Here is also food for thought. Spreading it around and embedding it everywhere would be highly appreciated. Many thanks in advance. Ahmad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbEM6soTHOA Hello to you and to your visitors, true thanks for your concern and support regarding Egyptian Bloggers. Here is also food for thought. Spreading it around and embedding it everywhere would be highly appreciated. Many thanks in advance. Ahmad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbEM6soTHOA

]]> By: Simon http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/comment-page-1/#comment-38740 Simon Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:38:15 +0000 http://pdberger.com/egypt-blogger-jailed-four-years-for-insulting-islam-and-president-mubarak/#comment-38740 That must of been one nasty insult. Did he tell them they stank like poopoo or something? That must of been one nasty insult. Did he tell them they stank like poopoo or something?

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